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The 80-20 Rule by Artsammich The 80-20 Rule by Artsammich
Something for a "tutorial" post on my blog. Hope it's helpful to someone.
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SteveMillersArt Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
love it
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Evitaer Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
80-20 works
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SlimSpidey Featured By Owner May 19, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
This was awesome, by the way. Thank you for sharing.
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SlimSpidey Featured By Owner May 19, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Did you do this continually for the 13 hours or was it on and off over days? Did you use any reference for lighting, colors or anything else?
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Artsammich Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014
All my work done outside of Disney is a few hours here and there. No reference for lighting or colors.
Thanks!
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SlimSpidey Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for sharing again man. And if you ever want to adopt a self-conscious 35 year old aspiring illustrator and raise him as your own... I'm totally your guy.
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JRettberg Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Great insight! Thanks for this
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kaav Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013
Thanks for sharing, it's cool but a shame that the images are so small.
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mighty5cent Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Appreciate this and the blog entry that goes with it! I've heard of this before, but it didn't quite register until now. Thanks!
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Pachunka Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012  Professional Artist
This is really great. :)
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GoGo-Ghosty Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Student General Artist
this is interesting advice~
I think it'll help a lot~♥
Thanks for sharing!
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KaveriGeewhiz Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thats a great bit of advice,thanks for sharing. Like many artists I waste hours on detail right at the very start.
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trunkss Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
nice to see pareto principle applied to art =]
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StudioOtaking Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012
Mind blown.

Thank you for this excellent advice. I'm going to remember this rule as 'spend most of your time on that (small) part that most of the audience will focus on'.

At the very least, it'll help prioritize things.


PS I swear, art nowadays is as much an intellectual pursuit (contemplating all aspects of what one is depicting) as it is an expression of ones skills in manipulating the materials to express one's vision! [Though the powers of observation still trump.]
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gorkuk Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
perfectly
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Wildweasel339 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for this, so true!
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dvdsnsam Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Student Filmographer
More like a quick tip than a tutorial, but still a valid point that you bring up. Ideally, every element of a painting will be as rendered equally, but in the case of directing the eye to the more crucial elements of a painting, it helps to focus in on that area.
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geralddedios Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012   Traditional Artist
Well said !
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SpaceTurtleStudios Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012  Professional General Artist
Interesting. I can't say I've seen it hold true for myself though. I can barely see the difference between your last two example pictures, and can't really fathom why you would spend 5 hours on such subtle touches. I am not really one for tiny details anyway, though.
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Artsammich Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012
Whether or not the details are tiny depends on what scale you plan the image to be viewed at. This is much smaller than I was expecting people to see the image at, so a lot of those tiny details were actually pretty rough in the final.
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artbyangel19 Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
Thank you for the info, really puts into perspective how you create such amazing artwork
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KupKacheChitten Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012
ugh...so true.
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fantasio Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
While this is a great use of the rule for conceptart, there is an even more effective use of the Pareto Principle that applies to freelancing: 20% of my clients make 80% of my income, concentrating on these makes the painting process much easier:)
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Artsammich Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012
That's a great use of the rule, and I could probably lose some stress if I allocated better that direction.
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pati88 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
wooww... thanks for the tips !!!
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AndyBennett Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I've never heard of this rule, but it makes a lot of sense, thanks for posting!
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zipple Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012   Digital Artist
Thanks for posting this. I work like this too, and friends never understand why I bother slaving over details when a painting at hour 2, 3, 4, etc. is perfectly acceptable in their eyes, haha.
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JessKat-art Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is good advice and has definitely given me food for thought. I often find myself excited at the start of a project and spend a lot of time on details. The longer it takes to finish, the sicker I eventually get of staring at the same drawing for hours and towards the end I'm tempted to take more shortcuts and be sloppier with the details. I guess I should start by determining which areas of the picture I want to really shine and which ones don't require as much work. thanks for this.
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Artsammich Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2012
Yeah, I think that exhaustion is a lot of the reason why this method works for me. If I focus my abundant energy at the beginning on the parts that matter most, then when I'm feeling lazy toward the end I don't feel so bad about cheating on the details.
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eternalpuppy Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012
:worship: Many thanks
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TedKimArt Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for posting this!
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AlivanArt Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012
get that book out... still waiting
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Elaeis Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
very helpfull indeed :)
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Dkundzinsh Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I kinda get it but not really, does this means that when painting you should conentrate on the main subject of the painting with details? as the background and the rest of the painting should be left more loose and less detailed?
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Artsammich Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012
Not necessarily more loose, and the attentional 20% may not necessarily be all of the main subject of the painting. I'd say after you block in your colors, step back and squint at the painting and see if there are specific parts that are catching your eye or that you think should be catching your eye. Focus your efforts on detailing out those areas first, and you'll find (most times anyway) that you know how far to go with the other parts of the painting. That doesn't necessarily mean you won't apply detail to the other parts of the painting, but you can usually use cheats to get those parts filled in (customized brushes/photo overlays/etc., and sometimes even rough/loose strokes are even enough).
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Dkundzinsh Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Makes perfect sense now, thank you so much for the reply.
Love your blog, inspiring art...
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tombancroft Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Really nice and right on the nose! Great point. Love this piece too. It makes me feel a little better seeing that it took you 13 hours and not 3!
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gillpanda Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
its very nice! i was hoping for a much higher rez version of this cuz its hard to see the details on the picture here. would you mind maybe sharing the full size tutorial? its too small to really learn much
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Artsammich Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
It's not a step-by-step tutorial, the point isn't how to follow my process, but to get an impression of how much your progress slows in that last 20% of a painting. But I did post a slightly higher res version of the steps here if you're curious to see the specifics (scroll down and click on the series of images at the bottom).
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gillpanda Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
okay cool^^ thank you so much.
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jmac05 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Get post, very useful!
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patbollin Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
Thanks for taking the time to post this.
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patbollin Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
Oh... and for rocking.
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LeeAnneKortus Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Great stuff!
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Hfoursaur Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
This is extremely helpful, Sam. Thanks so much for sharing!
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rHui-009 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
really informative, I really need a direction to drawing like this one. Thanks! :+fav:'d
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awgie Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
cool, thanx!!
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EdaHerz Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012   Digital Artist
Awesome tutorial!!! Thanks for sharing!!
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2Ajoe Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Very cool!
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Toucat Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Hobbyist
This is very helpful to see how the times play out. I think you might have put a typo in the last little segment. It says to prioritize the last of our 80%, but I think you meant to put 20%? If not, then I need to go back and reread it. X3
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